tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post1198327396135114166..comments2010-04-27T12:23:47.825-07:00Comments on Orange County / Saddleback Church Prop 8 Protest Blog: ToleranceSaddleback Prop 8 Protesthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05384540732175075432noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-58038162039641569802008-12-10T03:56:00.000-08:002008-12-10T03:56:00.000-08:00You still think it's acceptable for someone to los...You still think it's acceptable for someone to lose their job because of their political donation? Would it be OK to fire someone for calling out "gay" from work?Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394939651157866697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-3717971864094285612008-11-26T13:51:00.000-08:002008-11-26T13:51:00.000-08:00P.S. (from the LA Times story today, it was based ...P.S. (from the LA Times story today, it was based on religious grounds):<BR/><BR/>In a statement, Raddon said, "I have always held the belief that all people, no matter race, religion or sexual orientation, are entitled to equal rights. As many know, I consider myself a devout and faithful Mormon. I prefer to keep the details around my contribution through my church a private matter. But I am Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394939651157866697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-48490024478168906042008-11-26T11:58:00.000-08:002008-11-26T11:58:00.000-08:00At least you can say you haven't heard a single va...At least you can say you haven't heard a single valid reason anymore. BTW: Did you read the poll? There is no indication if all 8% who changed their minds were "Yes" or "No" voters. For all we know, it could have been 1% "Yes" and 7% "No" voters.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394939651157866697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-31603235558147048772008-11-26T11:47:00.000-08:002008-11-26T11:47:00.000-08:00Charles - the OVERWHELMING majority of protests ha...Charles - the OVERWHELMING majority of protests have been very peaceful. When 1 million people protesting around the country recently, how come we didn't hear all kinds of reports about how violent they were if that's what is happening? They have been VERY FEW cases of violence or vandalism. There will always be SOME cases when you get people like this together. I highly doubt more than 2% ofSaddleback Prop 8 Protesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384540732175075432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-300083171060864622008-11-26T11:28:00.000-08:002008-11-26T11:28:00.000-08:00Also, it was not 8% of "Yes" voters who changed th...Also, it was not 8% of "Yes" voters who changed their minds. Read the poll more closely. Seems to be a wash though:<BR/><BR/>"Will the recent rallies held by "No on Prop 8" protesters ultimately help their cause? Hurt their cause? Or will it not make a difference one way or the other?"<BR/><BR/>28% Help <BR/>28% Hurt <BR/>37% No Difference <BR/>6% Not SureCharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394939651157866697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-91851278269392099642008-11-26T11:20:00.000-08:002008-11-26T11:20:00.000-08:00Of course, any argument against your side is consi...Of course, any argument against your side is considered "invalid". People losing their jobs is not "valid". We know that any religious reason is not "valid" as well. You will have to read the following out loud in order to qualify as "hear[ing]" it though. <BR/><BR/>First, I have mentioned the effort to revoke tax-exempt status for churches supporting Prop. 8, right? If not, that seems Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394939651157866697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-16937946768293948392008-11-26T10:43:00.000-08:002008-11-26T10:43:00.000-08:00I still haven't hear a single valid argument about...I still haven't hear a single valid argument about how same sex marriage will ruin marriage. It has NOT ruined marriage or been harmful in areas where it's been legal for years. <BR/><BR/>The only arguments I hear is ones like how same sex marriage will lead to children being taught about same sex marriage (even if they are it won't make them gay), or about how it will affect free speech like Saddleback Prop 8 Protesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05384540732175075432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5648669943349354243.post-24003348785122315682008-11-26T10:33:00.000-08:002008-11-26T10:33:00.000-08:00Of course you don't feel bad about someone losing ...Of course you don't feel bad about someone losing a job for exercising their First Amendment rights. I understand you "lost your rights" so you think everyone else should. If a brother and sister were given the inherent civil "right" to marry for less than 5 months until that was corrected, I imagine they would feel hurt too.<BR/><BR/>As for 8% "Yes" voters changing their minds (as you said "a Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394939651157866697noreply@blogger.com