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An LA Pastor has invited Rick Warren to a debate on Gay Marriage. So far, there has been no response from Rick Warren and Saddleback other than "A spokeswoman for Warren said that the Saddleback pastor is focused on President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration, in which he will deliver the invocation, and is not making any comments prior to it."So now that is over - will Rick show up for a debate

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As the inauguration nears - so does the Saddleback Protest set to take place on Sunday. I wish whoever started it did so earlier in the day but hey - at least someone is in charge! It's going to be fairly large. If you haven't seen the site yet that Californians Agaist Hate started, you should check it out.Also interesting is a narrative on Rick Warren's "accomplishments" fighting HIV/AIDS in

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I read that 85% of evangelical Christians voted Yes on Prop 8. Or something like that. That means 15 out of every 100 Evangelical Christians actually have some sense and understanding of Jesus' message of love and acceptance. Pastor Kenneth Samuel is one of them. He says that protests against Rick Warren in regards to the invocation at Obama's inauguration are justified.Read about it in the

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Remember when we were called bullies for boycotting and protesting businesses that supported Prop 8? As if the pro-prop8 side had never done that? Of course they are at it again. This time with Pepsi.Remember all - it's Do as I Say - not as I do :)

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Here's an update from the Protest Organizer:First, we had an amazingly productive and supportive meeting with a representativefrom the OC Sheriff's Department. I was nervous before about safety, but we gotwonderful advice and they are going to be very helpful. I'll say it again, but onthe day, PLEASE thank them repeatedly!Second, I want to ask everyone who is attending YOUR thoughts on how to

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I didn't start this one, someone on Facebook did. The event has almost 300 people who say they are coming. You can go too, even if you aren't on Facebook to see the event. Details from the Facebook page:Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009Time: 11:00am - 2:00pmLocation: Saddleback Church in Lake ForestEvangelical Pastor Rick Warren has been invited by President-Elect Obama to deliver the invocation

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This is a zinger. Rick Warren laid out a long video message to his congregation on Sunday night where he DENIED equating gay relationships to incest. He said he NEVER did that. My previous post shows he equated gay MARRIAGE to incest. A very clever deception? Accident? Or blatant lies? You be the judge...

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Apparently, someone has pulled some information from the Saddleback website which includes the part about how you cannot be a member if you don't repent from your gay lifestyle. Does that mean gays can be members now or dose it just mean Saddleback is trying to whitewash and water down their image? Check the cache of the page here. It looks very different now. Instead is a like to some audio

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I'm proposing another Protest on Jan 18th at Saddleback. What do you all think? Who's in?Considering Obama picked Warren to speak at his inauguration and considering Rick Warren has compared gay couples to incest... Rick Warren is definitely climbing the anti-gay anti-equality list really fast. I don't think people are going to buy his "I'm accepting of gays" statement much longer and are

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Seriously President Elect Obama - what are you thinking? Thanks for the slap in the face for gays fighting for equality. I know you have placed many openly gay people in high level positions, but to place an openly anti-equality pastor into such a high profile roll in your inauguration?Please go here and demand Obama rescind his invitation to Rick Warren. I've already done it. What are you

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We already know about the black vote. According to the OC Register, here is some more (not surprising) information:Who voted yes:85% of Evangelical Christians77% of Republicans70% of African Americans62% of people without a college degree61% of Hispanics50% of WhitesNow are people still wondering why we protested outside Saddleback Church?I love the statistic that 62% of people without a college

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LA Film Director steps down because of flack over his donation to Prop 8. A lot of people are saying it is intolerant to ask someone to step down over religious beliefs. I have a couple responses to that. First - what if you were head of an organization with a very large gay and lesbian contingent and you were NOT religious and still made that donation just based on personal beliefs?Second - I

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Ahhh.. that "Yes on 8" letter is finally getting some attention.Do as I say... not as I did.Read more about it at Good as You

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PLEASE people. Really?? There have been several people who say they are Saddleback members and that Rick Warren NEVER publicly endorsed Prop 8. Really? Is that all you have? The bottom line is that it IS a fact. Even in interviews after his endorsement he did not deny it. Read part of the email here. Or check it out at CBN.If you don't trust the source, maybe you can trust a video from

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Well I'll admit that both sides of this debate have their people who do stupid and say stupid things, I think it's incredibly arrogant to say ONLY the "other" side is so full of hate.Enter Peter LaBarbera from "Americans for Truth about Homosexuality". "Good as You" has a great bit about how Peter claims how hate filled the comments are on pro-gay blogs. He goes on to say how he could NEVER

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Kudos to Subway! Protests and such DO make a difference.The Sundance film festival could be impacted this year because the CEO of the Cinemark (who owns the theater where films are screened) gave $9,999 to yes on Prop 8.A Sacramento Theater Director resigned after giving $1,000 to Prop 8, and after receiving criticism from prominent artists.Film Independent LA did not accept the resignation of

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Focus on the Family is laying off about 200 people. That comes in the wake of them spending over 500,000 to "protect" marriage in CA. That money could have covered 20 people making the average income in CO. That 500K toward Prop 8 also came after an 8 million budget shortfall last year. How are you handling God's money now Mr. Dobson?I guess protecting marriage is more important than

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Join gays and gay supporters all around the country on Dec 10th, 2008 for "Day without a gay" Personally, I think it should be "Day without a gay (or gay supporters)". I think that for a couple reasons. First of all, in about 30 states, you can still be fired for being gay. Second, there are many straight supporters who want to show solidarity for this movement, and I encourage that!Dec 10th

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The nationwide protests that occurred this past Saturday are not even close to the end of this. To some they may have been a culmination of daily protests since Prop 8 passed.To me, and to many others, the event of this past Saturday signifies something much, much bigger. You see, if Prop 8 had been left off the ballot, none of this would be happening right now. But what HAS happened is an

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So... the Yes on 8 voters seem rather annoyed that we haven't just shut up in the wake of the popularity contest vote called Proposition 8.They are saying things like why boycott business's who voted Yes on 8 or gave money? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? The American Family Association and other organizations like them have a long history of boycotts.Remember their I'm not lovin'

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Sound like a good idea? What do you think?Though I would propose doing this nationwide - not just in CA.

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Sound Familiar? This was a call made by "Traditional Marriage" CA lawyers not so long ago.Gay marriage opponents have been arguing that marriage has "always been between one man and one woman". What they don't say is that before about 20-30 years ago it was "always been one man and one woman of the same race". If they want to argue traditional marriage as it's always been - why allow

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I received this following email on my facebook account. I couldn't agree with it more and I think he raises some important issues. While I admire the concept of gay pride and the rainbow, it does have the impact of making others feel excluded. However, the American Flag? That excludes no one. We are all Americans, be it straight or gay or whatever. I echo the challenge that if you attend a

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"Wednesday morning Judge Jonathan Silbert entered the final judgment, allowing for same-sex couples to marry in Connecticut. The ruling makes any law that prohibits marriage between same-sex couples illegal in the state."Let's hope the CA Supreme Court comes to the same conclusion - that it is illegal to prohibit same sex couples from marrying. Of course, in this case there was not

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Also on Colbert. Colbert even included a clip from O'Reilly's segment. The segment on Colbert starts at 2:55 into the show.

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From the Rachel Maddow Show. It starts about 50 seconds into this clip

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Please join the nationwide protest of Proposition 8. For the location nearest you visit: http://www.jointheimpact.com/?page_id=2UPDATE: There is one set up for Orange County now.Go here: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=34475914076

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Thanks to everyone (all 300 of you!) who came out to the protest! Thank you Lake Forest Police Department & Orange County Sheriff & Deputy Nelson for helping to make sure this protest was safe and our free speech rights were protected.The below pictures come from Greg Sloan, Scott Shamansky, Marjin Hostetlet, Cheryl Kingston, Wellesley Sommerfeldt, & Nicole Ruesser. Please don't use these

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ABC7 with VideoOC RegisterLA Times (brief mention)Yahoo NewsBoston.Com (same as Yahoo Story)Why oh Why BlogVentura County Star

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Ideas for your signs:end the war on loveequality for allDon't elimin8 our rightsGays are not second class citizenscommitments of love are never wrongWhen do I get to vote on your marriage?Marriage equalitylove is LoveYou can't amend my lovewhere are my 40 days (or years) of love?If you are attending this rally - please be peaceful! Do not interfere with or block traffic. Please stay on the

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No one's religious beliefs should be used to deny fundamental rights to others," said Lorri L. Jean, chief executive officer of the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center. "Our civil rights are inalienable."This peaceful protest will take place this Sunday (November 9th) at 10AM PST. Please spread the word!! Prop 8 is unfair and unconstitutional. Why Saddleback? Rick Warren of Saddleback Church came out

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